virtual folder vs menu - i really did look for this question

thanks for the reply. i am attaching a snap of my main tlb folder 'desk', which shows my problem. notice on the left side there are 5 folders which are 'menus' and they are real folders in the '\toolbars\desk\' folder. there are a few other folders that i would like to act like menus, ie have the little blue arrow next to them (and the actions that come with that), but i'll be darned if i can figured out how to make them do that, without it actually creating a real (not virtual) new folder beneath the 'desk' path. everything i try just drops a regular folder into the directory rather than the special menuing folder.