Requests regarding Context Menus and Scrollers
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quattrocchi
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05-10-2010, 02:05 PM -
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A couple of requests for improving the look and feel of TLB settings.

1. The small triangular scrollers top and bottom of the Context Menu seem minimal to me. Compare them to the ones we can get on new menus which allow scrolling up and down by hovering the pointer down the bottom or up the top of the menu. The TLB Context menu just sports a single triangle/arrow which doesn't respond to a hover, nor click-and-hold. Single and repeated clicks are needed.

2.a. Then, there's the confusion I get with a variety of different 'Properties' options on the TLB Context Menu. Well maybe not a great variety, but in some menus Properties at the bottom of a 'C:drive' context menu I've created applies (properly) to the details about the Drive, but there's also a second 'Properties' higher up on the context menu offering the same info.

2.b. On another of my new menus, which points to various 'Work' folders, 'Properties' offers info under these headings: General/Sharing/Customising', yet these are also available from the same context menu under 'Sharing and Security'. Maybe there's some duplication going on.

2.c. Further, I am confused by 'Appearance->Button Properties'. In the Appearances sub-menu, higher up, is Change Icon/Change description etc. Can I suggest putting some or all of those options inside the Button Properties dialogue box and calling it Button Options or Settings. 'Change Description' could more usefully be called 'Custom Caption and Description', to show it's different from 'Button Label'.

Meanwhile, please accept my appreciation for a very useful file-finding app, a great app-launcher, and a name that sounds like True Lunch Bar!

Brian
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TLB v4.4.8.1 beta
Yuri Kobets
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05-11-2010, 02:32 PM -
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Quote:1. The small triangular scrollers top and bottom of the Context Menu seem minimal to me. Compare them to the ones we can get on new menus which allow scrolling up and down by hovering the pointer down the bottom or up the top of the menu. The TLB Context menu just sports a single triangle/arrow which doesn't respond to a hover, nor click-and-hold. Single and repeated clicks are needed.
I agree, the scrolling on hover is very good idea, but the context menu is the Windows standard menu and I can't to change the way it working Sad

Quote:2.a. Then, there's the confusion I get with a variety of different 'Properties' options on the TLB Context Menu. Well maybe not a great variety, but in some menus Properties at the bottom of a 'C:drive' context menu I've created applies (properly) to the details about the Drive, but there's also a second 'Properties' higher up on the context menu offering the same info.
OK, I'll try to remove one of the Properties menuitems.

Quote:2.b. On another of my new menus, which points to various 'Work' folders, 'Properties' offers info under these headings: General/Sharing/Customising', yet these are also available from the same context menu under 'Sharing and Security'. Maybe there's some duplication going on.
Please can you comment this bug with screenshot?

Quote:2.c. Further, I am confused by 'Appearance->Button Properties'. In the Appearances sub-menu, higher up, is Change Icon/Change description etc. Can I suggest putting some or all of those options inside the Button Properties dialogue box and calling it Button Options or Settings. 'Change Description' could more usefully be called 'Custom Caption and Description', to show it's different from 'Button Label'.
Hmm... 'Change Description' something like historical name Smile The Button Properties appears much later. But you are right, maybe it is time to combine these two dialog boxes.

Quote:Meanwhile, please accept my appreciation for a very useful file-finding app, a great app-launcher, and a name that sounds like True Lunch Bar!
Thank you very much!
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quattrocchi
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05-11-2010, 07:59 PM -
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Yuri Kobets Wrote:
Quote:2.b. On another of my new menus, which points to various 'Work' folders, 'Properties' offers info under these headings: General/Sharing/Customising', yet these are also available from the same context menu under 'Sharing and Security'. Maybe there's some duplication going on.
Please can you comment this bug with screenshot?
context menu1 http://www.adam.co.nz/workmenu_sharing1.jpg
result1 http://www.adam.co.nz/workmenu_sharing2.jpg
context menu2 http://www.adam.co.nz/workmenu_prop1.jpg
result2 http://www.adam.co.nz/workmenu_prop2.jpg

Here's the data for this menu FYI
http://www.adam.co.nz/workmenu_tlbdata.xml
On another note can we edit these text files, add to the menu?

Brian
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05-12-2010, 11:35 AM -
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OK, now I see, thank you for screenshots. But this is the standard Windows behavior, you will get the same result from Windows Explorer. "Sharing and Security" opens the Properties with second tab activated, then the Properties menu item just activate the opened dialog box.

Quote:Here's the data for this menu FYI
<!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.adam.co.nz/workmenu_tlbdata.xml">http://www.adam.co.nz/workmenu_tlbdata.xml</a><!-- m -->
On another note can we edit these text files, add to the menu?
Yes this is possible, but TLB does't accept the changed in this file until you refresh menu or toolbar.
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quattrocchi
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05-13-2010, 09:41 PM -
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Yuri Kobets Wrote:
Quote:On another note can we edit these text files, add to the menu?
Yes this is possible, but TLB does't accept the changed in this file until you refresh menu or toolbar.

Hmmm. I can't make this work. I tried copy/paste/edit to add a line or two. Refresh didn't show any changes other than a re-ordering I also did to the existing items. Praps I also need to add folders with their own namespace, setup, and tlbdata files.

Do you have any instructions for hand-editing a menu tlbdata file? Or should we just stick to making New menus the proper way and, if necessary, dragging them into position.
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05-14-2010, 12:53 PM -
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Quote:Praps I also need to add folders with their own namespace, setup, and tlbdata files.
  • namespace.fld - this is the shortcut to the source folder. You can create the standard shortcut and change the extention into .fld (using command line for example)
  • setup.ini - currently to set the icon
    Code:
    [icon]
    icon=Software Green 2.ico
  • tlbdata.xml - describes the menu options (everything from customize menu), items settings (icons, hotkeys, text color etc.) and keep the items order and seperators. For virtual folders can contain information for all submenus.[/list:u]

    Quote:Or should we just stick to making New menus the proper way and, if necessary, dragging them into position.
    The best way is create the menu using the True Launch Bar. The information in the tlbdata files not a human-friendly. tlbdata.xml contain the options for existing items only.
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